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Carrie Horn Carrie Horn wrote on September 19, 2019 at 12:56 am:
Where to begin!! From the moment this was presented to me about 6 months ago, it seemed like a dream. We(myself and 2 friends) did the Via Valais starting on 9/6/2019 and ended on 9/14/2019. Kim Strom was an amazing help all along the way and it was such a pleasure to meet Dan and Janine Patitucci. The challenges were real, but every bit worth it. Everyday was different and every stay in the huts/hotels along the way were beyond memorable in different ways. Having done the Haute Route 5 years ago almost to the day, I have to say that the views and staying up high is well worth the extra miles and vertical feet. We had rain, snow and lots of cloudy weather the first few days, but were then blessed with bright blue skies and temps in the high 60's. I would Highly recommend this adventure to any outdoor enthusiast that has a thirst for challenge. My hats off to the crew who created the VIA VALAIS!!!!
EWA SIWON EWA SIWON wrote on August 29, 2019 at 6:25 am:
Thanks for your prompt reply and useful information!
Ewa Siwon Ewa Siwon wrote on August 28, 2019 at 7:28 pm:
Hi, I am planning to do this amazing Via Valais next year and have a few questions. 1) which month offers the best weather to do it between June-August? 2) Which stages are easier and can be connected and done in one day instead of two? I'd like to do it in 4-6 days. I have just finished a fastpacking trip 465 km/ +14000 m in 9 days . 3) Is it safe to do it alone in terms of glacier crevasses, etc.? Best regards, it seems you created a real gem, I can't wait to be there!
Admin Reply by: Dan Patitucci
Hi Ewa, Great to hear you are making some plans! June is not possible as there is too much snow, and July hinges on when a bridge is installed over a gorge, usually mid July - and the best window is then between then and mid-September, anytime. But September is usually great for big things in the Alps. Combining days is a tough call, but 3 is fairly easy, and you can skip the Moiry hut and go straight to Zinal to link 3 and 4. Other than that combo, it's your call, they are all big and hard. As for going alone, I don't think it is an issue for anything other that just getting hurt and needing help. There are no crevasses and no real hazards beyond rolling ankles, falling, weather. Feel free to check in anytime, and keep us posted! Dan
Loic Loic wrote on August 22, 2019 at 2:55 pm:
The journey of a lifetime.... it is hard to describe the total feeling of immersion you get by spending so much time high-up. It is also approachable, with the flexibility to enjoy relaxing time at the huts or double-up the stages. And it is not that difficult to reach , little time lot in transportation around the world and half-broken trains. One story in length: https://m.facebook.com/?_rdr#!/story.php?story_fbid=10156424170016299&id=516846298&ref=m_notif&notif_t=feedback_reaction_generic
Andrina Küchler Andrina Küchler wrote on August 13, 2019 at 9:55 am:
Hi there, I can imagine it's not always easy to quit the stages. Which two stages do you recommend doing if I only have two days of time?
Admin Reply by: Dan Patitucci
I'd say do the first 4 stages the first day, and the next 5 stages the second day... 😉 This is Dan, and for me stages 5, 6, and 8 are my favorites. Maybe start on 5, but with a climb of the Pigne de la Lé early in the morning, then run it through to Turtmanntal Hut. Day 2 is the Barrhorn and descent to the Mattertal, which right now requires a detour to Herbriggen.
Ben & Jen Ben & Jen wrote on August 11, 2019 at 9:46 pm:
We did the 6-stage tour from July 31 - Aug 5. It was a fantastic experience! Each stage, and to some degree each valley, has its own feel created by the ever-changing combinations of landscape, plants, geology and people. Coming from Alaska, where wild nature begins at the trailhead, we found it awesome how civilized a 6-day trot in the mountains could be AND how light our packs could be for such an undertaking. In the middle of a run, you can get strudel and iced-tea! You can charge up the Corne De Sorebois in the noontime heat and get the best coke of your life just on the other side! How badass is that?! We packed minimally but still found that the added weight made it pretty tough to keep trotting up most of the significant climbs. We mainly power-hiked the ups and jogged the flats and the descents. The long descents into the villages definitely took their toll, but at the end of each one is a hot shower and cold beer. Starting out on day 3 (from Zinal), we felt pretty ragged, but after that our bodies seemed to get used to the continued effort. If like us, you've never been to the Alps before, you're going to want to take a ton take photos. My camera is too big to fit on the front of my pack, so I was frequently stopping to take off my pack to get the camera. Having a small, light camera you can run with and easily access without taking your pack off will save you more time on the trail than 2 months of interval training. Sending the bags on with the train had its pros and cons. On the pro side, it was nice to have civilian clothes and other personal items in town. On the other hand, sending bags prevents you from leaving town early in the morning and forces you to head into town before the office closes to collect them. It wasn't a huge inconvenience, but I think if I did it again, I'd nix sending bags and put the money I saved toward more strudels. We're just so appreciative of AlpsInsight for giving us all the information to go have this experience. I can't recommend it enough, especially to folks from the US who haven't experienced the wonderfully civilized Alps mountain culture.
Sonia & Alex Sonia & Alex wrote on August 11, 2019 at 5:42 pm:
Finished the 7 first days of the Via Valais on Friday! First of all, many thanks to AlpsInsight for creating this amazing tour; we had soooo much fun!! 🙂 Reading through Loic and Chelsea comments, we can confirm that some of the GPS tracks did not match the distance covered according to our Garmin watch (we traveled more distance than what was described); espacially stage 3 probably due to the straight line through Evolene. On day 7, the rocky trail that follows the Schöllijoch was not our favorite part as it was more climbing/trekking than trailrunning.. And the trail to Randa was closed, so that we had to change our itinerary and head to St Niklaus. But overall it was an incredible experience, with most of the time sunny and warm weather, and just one rainy day (that happened on day 4 from Cabane de Moiry to Zinal, but we are sure the views must have been fantastic!). The views along the way are breathtaking and the steep climbs to the peaks/passes are well worth the sweat! We are happy we stopped after 7 days as our knees were suffering from the steep 2200m descent to St Niklaus on the last day. But we would like to finish days 8 and 9 someday and discover these running trails around Zermatt! We were very satisfied with all the huts, the staff was always welcoming and the food was great. We even had the chance to attend a concert of "Les Poissons Voyageurs" at the Cabane des Becs de Bosson; we had a fantastic night! We also saw a lot of wild animals throughout the week (tooons of marmots, deers, ibexes, sheeps, foxes, .. :)). We particularly enjoyed waking up and setting out early so that we could chill at the hut (with a piece of cake mmmmh) in the afternoon 😉 Again a big thank you to the whole team for sharing the gear you packed for the tour; we bought the filter and it was definitely worth it (felt very autonomous and saved a lot of money!). Our Kalenji 15L backpack weighed 4kg without water/food and therefore very light and comfortable for running. We are sooo happy and proud of what we have accomplished and recommend the Via Valais to everyone loving nature, incredible views, the contact with people, stiff legs after a long run (:-P) and of course trail running!!
Admin Reply by: Dan Patitucci
Hey Sonia & Alex, Thank you so so much for writing this! Great feedback and we are literally checking the distances again right this minute. It's been interesting that Garmin watches are what people are using and getting more distance - we actually measured the distances on SwissMobility to get our numbers. Seems the best thing is for us to bump up the distances in our stats to not really make it tough for people. And we're really happy the filter worked for you. That is a key tip! Be sure to get the last two days done, they are some of the best of the whole thing. We're happy for you guys! Thank you again, Dan, Janine & Kim
Chelsea Chelsea wrote on August 9, 2019 at 4:00 pm:
Just back from an amazing Via Valais trip! My plan was to do the 9 day route in 9 days. It might have been a good idea to take a rest day partway through (hint hint to others planning the full route) - my knees were suffering from the descent at some point, so I cut a stage and ended up doing 8 stages. I would echo Loic's comments below about some routes and distances - by my Garmin each of the first three days were >30km. The discrepancy from the description on day 3 almost certainly caused by this straight line through Evolene which makes the described distance shorter than the distance you actual travel. Just be aware that your GPS device may not match the Fatmap/webpage distance listings, and pack enough extra snacks accordingly! Overall I had an amazing experience and am so grateful to you guys (AlpsInsight team) for putting this together. It is so cool to see the landscape change from valley to valley as you go over each pass. It is hard to pick out a favorite section, as they are all special in their way, but a few were the stay at Becs de Bosson (a magical place!), going up to Schöllijoch and the Barrhorn (that landscape is so dramatic), and all the great running on the Moiry to Zinal day and around Zermatt at the end. I was pleasantly surprised how runable large sections of this route were. I have done some of the other runs on this website before and even the "easy" ones I find myself doing a lot of hiking, but there were days on the Via Valais where I was really doing mostly running. The route is incredible for including so much great singletrack at runable grades. It's separated by huge and steep passes/cols, but then you're back to running trails! A last tip to others - do make sure you do day 9 instead of just cutting down to Zermatt. The trail running in Zermatt is incredible. It's worth it. When I decided to reduce my trip from 9 to 8 stages I skipped stage 8 so I could still get the Zermatt running in, and I'm very happy with that decision.
Admin Reply by: Dan Patitucci
Hey Chelsea, Thank you so much for posting, and a huge congrats for being one of the first people to do the Via Valais! We really enjoyed following you on Instagram. For us, it is super rewarding to see people experiencing what we found. Regarding distances, yes, we are aware that some days may be longer. It is just so hard to really determine what they are. When we measure it on SwitzerlandMobility, which is by far the most accurate, we get what we listed. Our watches were similar, but we don't trust the watches, and we make photos when out, so we wander around and alter the distance. It's hard to really know. It'll be interesting to see what others say. Thanks again for posting this, Janine, Kim and Dan
loic loic wrote on July 29, 2019 at 8:47 pm:
Just back from it. Will post a more detailed report, but a couple of points to check: - Stage 3: (i) it seems like GPS was off through Evolène, there is a straight line; actual distance might be 2km more, and go through city (for coffee and pastry 😉 ) (ii) there is a shorter track going straight up to Bec de Bossons via L'A Veille (and nice restaurant to refill) - Stage 4: there is a pretty long switch back on the forest road; I did not try it, but it might be fun and similar time (-1km, +200m more ascent) via points 2397m / 2554m /2548m - Stage 7: (i) heard the trail to Randa got wiped out and there is now a new one; not sure if the GPS track accounts for that (ii) small section between 5.2km and 5.5km where the track does not follow the actual marked trail (you might have done it in snow ?) - Schöllijoch: it is Stage 7, not Stage 6 - I believe there is a typo in the FAQ - Pas de Chèvre: Stage 2, not Stage 3 ? Same issue in FAQ, or maybe I am confused and lost too many brain cells high-altitude 🙂
Admin Reply by: Dan Patitucci
Hi Loic! Thank you so much for this. Your FAQ stage numbers are fixed - good catch. We'll check the GPX track, but these were actually drawn in to stick to trails by FATMAP, not actual recordings, which would have been hopelessly wrong. Yes, the original route on stage 7, down to Randa, is currently closed and we've adjusted it on the site, temporarily. Waiting to hear what they plan to do as it is a serac issue from high above. We're so glad you did this! Thanks again from our whole team!
Nina Nina wrote on July 25, 2019 at 4:47 pm:
Great route!! I completed the small Via Valais (6 stages) a few days ago. Breathtaking views, especially stage 4 (Turtmann Hut to Randa). The trails are very well connected. In some parts it's just you and nature - you will only run into marmots and ibexes. And if you are thirsty for summits... the bonus peaks are really worth the few extra kilometers!
Admin Reply by: Kim Strom
Glad to hear you enjoyed the trail, Nina. Thanks so much for sharing your experience!
Paulo Paulo wrote on May 29, 2019 at 9:29 pm:
From what I see it's not possible to download the GPXs from fatmap.com, not even after having created a standard account. Is this the expected behavior? The 3D maps are beautiful, but without a GPX are worthless.
Admin Reply by: Dan Patitucci
Try the Fatmap stage pages now - you should be able to download the GPX files again. Sorry about that!
Shine Shine wrote on April 22, 2019 at 5:08 am:
Hi, someone might have asked before regarding the GPX file. Every time I click on the FATMAP of each stage (the map is excellent by the way) , it will lead me to the FATMAP app but the app will shows ALL the trails map which is full of cross crossing line instead of the just the stage map that I wanted to save . Did I do something wrong or is there specific way to do that ? Thanks!
Admin Reply by: Dan Patitucci
I also saw this and notified Fatmap, it seems fixed and now only the Via Valais route is visible on the larger map. Works for me, but please let us know on your end. Thanks!
Enrico Enrico wrote on March 27, 2019 at 7:48 pm:
The SBB luggage transport system is only working with a valid train ticket for the same distance as the bag is going. Or if you've got a GA. 😉 Or have you found out a trick and are willing to share?
Will Hawkins Will Hawkins wrote on March 12, 2019 at 8:13 pm:
Hello! I am planning to do the route in August! Are you able to offer .gpx files of the stages or a single of the whole? I'd love to drop the route onto swisstopo
Admin Reply by: Dan Patitucci
All the gpx files are available within Fatmap if you go to the actual map page. Just click on the map and it'll take you to Fatmap where you can use their app (great) or download the file if you have an account.
Alain Imboden Alain Imboden wrote on March 1, 2019 at 3:25 pm:
First an amazing book and now the Via Valais. Your project is extremely well designed with amazing maps and perfectly fitted for trail runners. I know now what to do this summer! Do you plan to organise running camps in the future?
Admin Reply by: Dan Patitucci
Hi Alain, thanks so much for writing and the excitement for the trail. We don't offer any running camps, but our partners at runthealps.com are offering guided and self guided tours of the Via Valais. I can help connect you if you like. Thank you again, Dan & the Team
Dieter Dieter wrote on January 28, 2019 at 7:52 am:
Great Project!! Where to download the gps-tracks? Dieter
Admin Reply by: Dan Patitucci
Hi Dieter, Looks like you found our Via Valais site before it has gone public, we are getting ready to launch it! We're just waiting on the maps to be finished and it'll be linked from our Elevation : The Alps Trail & Peak Running Resource site. Hang tight and the route will be available. All the best, Dan
Dan Patitucci Dan Patitucci wrote on January 17, 2019 at 8:43 pm:
I suppose we are the first ones who get to post here as we're the only ones who have done the Via Valais. We thought it was so good that we decided to introduce it to the world and build this beautiful guide to it. Now it's your turn to discover this tour and share your thoughts. Enjoy! Dan, Janine and Kim - aka, the ALPSinsight Team